Gunny Bob guest host: Islam “a violent religion” that “condones the killing of innocents”
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Subbing for “Gunny” Bob Newman on his Newsradio 850 KOA show, guest host Lou Pate repeatedly smeared Muslims, calling Islam “a violent religion” and at one point asking listeners, “Do you want to comment on a good Muslim? I can't think of one.”
While discussing a recent report by the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC) during the January 26 broadcast of Newsradio 850 KOA's The Gunny Bob Show, guest host Lou Pate repeatedly denigrated Muslims while claiming that Islam is “a violent religion” that “condones the killing of innocents.”
Pate's comments about Islam came in reference to the January 25 IHRC report, which was critical of " 'crude and exaggerated' stereotypes of Muslims" in popular entertainment. After noting that the report criticized “Disney's cartoon, Aladdin ... for describing Aladdin's homeland as 'barbaric,' ” Pate asserted, "[I]t is! It's the way these people are living. Kill anybody who does not agree with the Islamic faith. That's what Muhammad taught." Pate further stated, “Stereotypes are not made up. Stereotypes are based on how people live,” and later added, “I think the Muslim religion is a violent religion, and the silence of those here living in America and around the world speaks volumes in their support for all of the bombings and the tens of thousands of murders.”
Pate asked his listeners during the broadcast, “Do you want to comment on a good Muslim? I can't think of one.” After a caller challenged Pate by saying, "[Y]ou said you cannot find a good Muslim. That is not true, there's plenty of good Muslims ... in this country," Pate told the caller to "[c]lean the potatoes out of your ears ... [w]hat I said was, can you find a good-guy Muslim depicted in movies?" Later in the broadcast, Pate claimed, “I'm not stereotyping all Muslims.” However, only minutes after making that statement, Pate repeated his assertion that Islam is “a violent religion” that “condones the killing of innocents.”
From the January 26 broadcast of Newsradio 850 KOA's The Gunny Bob Show, with guest host Lou Pate:
PATE: But here's what they're saying: Hollywood, American cinema is portraying them in a negative light. I'll tell you who's portraying Muslims in a negative light: Muslims. Stereotypes are borne on the actions of certain groups, whether you be white, black, Asian, Hindu, Roman Catholic priests, Jews, it doesn't matter. Muslims. The actions of groups are what form stereotypes. Then some are exaggerated in the media in movies and television, you know, Saturday Night Live, and other comedy bits.
But let's just go through with a little Muslim history, and if, uh -- a brief history, the recent history -- and if anybody out there could name a good guy on the Muslim front, I'd be anxious to hear it, 'cause I've been racking my brains all day trying to come up with one. You look back at the actions of Muslims, OK, and I'll tell you in a minute what their biggest -- the biggest act is that perpetuates this feeling that they are bad guys. Munich: the Olympics, 1972. The TWA hijacking in 1980, where they threw that Navy Seal out on the runway and put a bullet in his head. Leon Klinghoffer being thrown off the cruise ship. Then we get to the more recent things -- the embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Nairobi. Lockerbie. Oh, the daily bus bombings going on in Israel. The two attacks on the World Trade Center, one in '93 and then now 9-11. The London and Madrid bombings. The Khobar Towers bombings. Jakarta, Indonesia. The USS Cole. Bali. And the terrorist acts go on and on and on and on. Who's doing all of these acts? Who's killing other Muslims in Iraq right now? Other Muslims. So why is it -- how could they possibly be offended? How could they have the gall, the audacity to be offended by actions such as this? It is -- it's ludicrous, it's ridiculous, that any Muslim in the world is offended -- it's like -- they pretend like this doesn't go on. You ever watch Al Jazeera? You ever go on the Internet and look at Al Jazeera? Everything is someone else's fault -- they have the victim mentality -- they're almost like liberals. Everything else is someone else's fault. And now we have this group, this Islamic Human Rights Commission, saying that Muslims are not depicted fairly. There is, and I quote, “Islamophobia” in movies coming out of Hollywood and in Britain that help to demonize Muslims. Muslims are portrayed as violent, and backwards. And they say this reinforces prejudices.
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PATE: A group called the Islamic Human Rights Commission, they're complaining, because they don't like the way Hollywood is making movies and how Muslims are portrayed in that movie -- in those movies, excuse me. The 1998 film The Siege, which had Bruce Willis and Denzel Washington, well, they're accusing them of reinforcing, and I quote, “the monolithic stereotype of the Arab/Palestinian/Muslim being violent and ready to be martyred for their cause.” [laughs] Do I have to go through the list again? Huh? Do I have to go through 9-11, London, Madrid, Khobar, Munich, and on and on and on and daily life in Israel? Stereotypes are not made up. Stereotypes are based on how people live. That's what's going on. We have studies, here in the United States, so people are not offended -- they're not offended at how people are portrayed. You have to be kidding me. Disney's cartoon, Aladdin, was criticizing for describing Aladdin's homeland as “barbaric” -- well it does, it is! It's the way these people are living. Kill anybody who does not agree with the Islamic faith. That's what Muhammad taught. That's what he battled about in the early 600s, kill whoever -- the infidels. And they're doing it. Some call it warped; it doesn't matter. Perception is reality, and in this case, reality is reality. But I'd like to know what you think. Can you name a good-guy Muslim -- besides Morgan Freeman, as [Caller] did earlier?
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CALLER: Well, my one comment is, if it walks, talks, looks, flies, and quacks like a duck, it most likely is not a horse.
PATE: [laughs] I'd have to agree with you on that, and you know, if the clock ticks like a Muslim bomb and goes off, most likely is a Muslim bomb. It's not going to be a Christian bomb; it's not going to be a Hindu bomb; it's not going to be a Jewish bomb.
CALLER: And they're going to have to be the ones to change their image, because they're the ones that have portrayed themselves to be this way.
PATE: And you know what it is, people will say, “Well, it's only a -- it's only a small percentage of the billions of Muslims in the world who are committing these actions.” And while that might be true, the rest of them are not speaking out against it, and many of those, while not involved in the actions, are in favor of what they do or understand why they're doing it.
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PATE: We're talking about a group called Islamic Human Rights Commission; they put out a study, or the results of a study, co-author Arzu Merali -- he's the co-author -- is arguing that movies have played a crucial role in fostering a “crude and exaggerated” violent image of Muslims. This group is out of Britain. And I'll tell you, the only thing that has fostered a crude and harsh role in the life of Muslims -- or the image of Muslims, better said -- is the actions of Muslims themselves. Do you want to comment on a good Muslim? I can't think of one. What do you think of this group and their findings? I think it's ludicrous. I think the Muslim religion is a violent religion, and the silence of those here living in America and around the world speaks volumes in their support for all of the bombings and the tens of thousands of murders.
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CALLER: I'm just calling about this whole stereotyping of Muslims, and I don't think that it's correct. I don't think we should be stereotyping anybody; not everybody's a radical.
PATE: Well who's -- I don't think they're being stereotyped; these are -- these are movies, depicting actions. I mean, the movie Munich, it happened. You know, back in the day they wore veils, they still wear veils.
CALLER: You just said --
PATE: In current day -- in current day, they're blowing up planes, they're blowing up buildings, they're blowing up --
CALLER: Not all of them -- not all of them. Not all of them.
PATE: Who said all of them?
CALLER: Well, you just did --
PATE: No, I didn't --
CALLER: -- you just said that Islam religion is a violent religion --
PATE: It is a violent religion.
CALLER: -- you said you cannot find a good Muslim. That is not true, there's plenty of good Muslims --
PATE: I didn't say that.
CALLER: -- in this country.
PATE: Clean the potatoes out of your ears, [Caller]. What I said was, can you find a good-guy Muslim depicted in movies?
CALLER: I must've misunderstood you, you just said --
PATE: No, no -- you didn't want to hear it. No, you didn't want to hear what I was saying, that's what it was. You were looking to attack.
CALLER: Not really.
PATE: Now, what about -- what about all of these terrorist acts, they haven't happened?
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PATE: I'm not stereotyping all Muslims --
CALLER: Timothy -- Timothy McVeigh --
PATE: [sighs] -- I'm not stereotyping all Muslims; I'm criticizing those who do the bombings, and I'm criticizing the rest of the Muslim community for, well, not condemning it.
CALLER: But speaking up, like, they speak, in between, and they talk to anybody they can --
PATE: Who? I go -- I go look at Al Jazeera, and they refuse to condemn. That's supposed to be a news organization.
CALLER: But that's all Middle East. And I agree, the radical Muslims are in the Middle East, but not all the Muslims live in the Middle East.
PATE: I didn't say they do. You're putting a lot of words in my mouth there, [Caller], lots of words.
CALLER: You got good Muslims living in Europe, with their women that are not covered.
PATE: I know that. But they still don't speak out. I'm not saying they're all bad, but we need more to speak out. But thanks for your call, [Caller], do appreciate it. You know, you can't nickel-and-dime and say, “Oh not that guy, not this one.” It's not every single one, but it's most -- it's most. And, you know, when you bring up the violence that's in the Quran -- and actually, we're going to take a quick break and come back with a quote from the Quran from Jim in Littleton -- they say, “You don't understand.” Yes, I do understand; it's a violent religion, and it condones the killing of innocents.