MARTHA MACCALLUM (CO-HOST): It is interesting to me, I went on the website for the high school and one of the thing that we learned is that he wasn't going to graduate. And this is devastating for someone his age. He worked at a Wendy's where they started to notice that his behavior wasn't right. COVID kept him home -- he dropped out during COVID. This is another nexus that is really important, I think, in this story, in terms of the isolation that was happening. At this point, we don't know about his parents, there's some reports that his mother had problems with drugs.