LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. But Victor, they will throw themselves on the funeral pyre of illogical thinking in order to defend globalism.
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON (SENIOR FELLOW, HOOVER INSTITUTION): Yeah, it's incoherent. They wouldn't want open borders in their own backyards. So Trump had an innate suspicion of China, the authoritarian, totalitarian lack of transparency. That proved to be pretty wise. He wanted to close the border and make legal immigration only on the southern border and that's why the European Schengen Agreement of open borders is pretty much in chaos with Austria and Italy and he has addressed -- he is worried about 500,000 Americans living in squalor and vermin on the streets of our major cities. So all of those things are what anybody with any logic would say that's what we need to do. But because it's Trump, they are antithetical to anything he says. It reminds me of the hysteria of the [Y2K] computer scare in 2000 or maybe the politicization or the weaponization of Katrina that was used against George W. Bush. We're no longer in the realm of science and logic. This is a political weaponization of an issue in a way the Mueller and the impeachment failed to achieve results. So it's tragic because lives are in danger.