LOU DOBBS (HOST): I want to share with the audience one of the affidavits that has been given to us by an unidentified whistleblower, and it pertains to Dominion.
RUDY GIULIANI (TRUMP ATTORNEY): Ah, Dominion.
DOBBS: A whistleblower who also saw what happened in Venezuela. And the very similar events that took place in the United States on November 3. If we could put this up, please, to share with the audience, because it is indeed alarming. The whistleblower says this -- if we ever get it up: "I am alarmed because of what is occurring in plain sight during this 2020 election for president of the United States. The circumstances and events are eerily reminiscent of what happened with Smartmatic software electronically changing votes in the 2013 presidential election in Venezuela. What happened in the United States was that the vote counting was abruptly stopped in five states using Dominion software. At the time that vote counting was stopped, Donald Trump was significantly ahead in the votes. Then during the wee hours of the morning, when there was no voting occurring and the vote count reporting was offline, something significantly changed. When the vote reporting resumed the very next morning, there was a very pronounced change in voting in favor of the opposing candidate, Joe Biden." That from a whistleblower who was present both in Venezuela in 2013 and in this country as we were counting votes overnight on November 3. Your thoughts.
GIULIANI: Well, Lou, I don't know if people can appreciate this but I think when they do they're going to be outraged. Our votes in 27, 28 states, did they count them by Dominion? And calculated and analyzed? They're sent outside the United States. And they're not sent to Canada. They're sent to Germany and Spain. And the company counting it is not Dominion. It's Smartmatic, which is a company that was founded in 2005 in Venezuela for the specific purpose of fixing elections. That's their expertise, how to fix elections. They did it a number of times in Venezuela, they did it in Argentina, and they messed up an election to a fare-thee-well in Chicago, and there's a whole congressional record that you can go look at about what a terrible company this is. Well, that's the company that was counting and calculating on election night, and they did all their old tricks.
DOBBS: Well, wait --
GIULIANI: They stopped it, they also switched votes around subtly, maybe 10 per district so you don't notice it. They got caught in Antrim County, which is how we found out about them, and we are in the process now of investigating this in great, great detail. But I mean, just the mere fact that we have a foreign country -- we have this in a foreign country, done by friends of an enemy of the United States, [Venezuelan President Nicolás] Maduro, is outrageous! And has to stop immediately.
DOBBS: It's outrageous, and it's all the more outrageous because Dominion and Smartmatic were denied use in the state of Texas, which called them out for what they are. They have a clear record: Democratic senators sending letters in 2019, joining with Republicans now in decrying the reliability and the ability of that system to avoid manipulation and fraud without any one of these secretaries of state in various states responding and shutting them down.
GIULIANI: Well, Lou, the amazing thing is, Caroline Maloney, a congresswoman from Manhattan, wrote a letter in 2006, 2007, explaining everything I just said. We shouldn't be using this company that was founded by Chavez to call votes in America because their specialty in Venezuela is cheating. Apparently the governor signed them up and never bothered to do any due diligence of any kind. Also the company Dominion is a far-left radical company. Some of their people have written and tweeted the worst things about Trump and Republicans that you could possibly imagine. They've since taken it down but we have it, so we've got a very radical far-left company with some of their high-level people, supporters of antifa. Can you believe that? And they're using a Venezuelan company as the vote counter, which is known for changing votes, and also known to have the most insecure computers in this business. I think you'd only pick them because you want to cheat.