WILL CAIN (HOST): Matthew, it is your job to convince us why we must wear a mask. It is not our job to convince you why we should be free to breathe nakedly. And in answering that question, I hope one day in a conversation together, me and Matthew McConaughey, you're not going to be able to ride the wave of platitudes and acceptability. You're not going to be able just ride the wave of the CDC's dictates -- the CDC or the FDA or the United States government who have been wrong on the virus's threat to kids, who have been wrong on the recommendations for school closures, who have been wrong on the necessity for vaccines for children, who have been wrong -- as we pointed out at the top of this podcast -- when it comes to masks, who have been wrong on the origins of the coronavirus.