MICHAEL KNOWLES (HOST): Now, another smart thing the Haley campaign is doing -- she's promising to pardon Trump if Trump is convicted of crimes. So, Haley came out, she said, a leader needs to think about what is in the best interests of the country. What is in the best interest of the country is not to have an 80 year-old man sitting in jail that continues to divide our country. What is in the best interest of our country is to pardon him so that we as a -- can move on as a country and no longer talk about him. So, she's still got a properly anti-Trump tone to this. She's running against him. She gotta be opposing him. But the substance of what she's saying is, yeah, I'll pardon him. As well she should, as all of the Republican candidates should promise to do.
The only reason that the Democrats are going after this guy is because he was an effective conservative. He's the most effective conservative president of our lifetimes. Even if you hate his guts, and his tweets, and his face, and his demeanor, and everything about him, you have to admit that, I think. The guy got Roe v Wade overruled. He is the first Republican president maybe ever -- first Republican president in probably about a hundred years to make mass migration a major political issue and do anything to try to stem the tide of that. He's the first Republican politician in well over a quarter -- no, over probably half a century now to focus on America's national interest in explicit terms against globalism and global liberalism, liberal empire. He's really -- he was pretty good. You know? He had some flaws, but he was pretty good.
And the only reason the libs are going after him is not because he led an insurrection or whatever. The liberals have led many more serious insurrections on the Capitol that have actually killed people, not just their own supporters, killed members of Congress, killed all sorts of people, blown up parts of the Capitol many, many times over the years. We never heard insurrection then. Donald Trump disputed the results of an election that was obviously rigged. Democrats have been denying the results of elections, of most elections that they lose at the national level and of state national prominence for a long time. The 2000 election, the Stacey Abrams non-election in Georgia, a lot of them. Even the 2004 election, Bush versus Kerry. The only reason they're going after him is because he was an effective conservative.
I wanna hear every Republican candidate saying, yes, of course, we'll pardon Trump. If I don't hear that -- I understand you're running against Trump. You don't like the guy. You wanna knock him down. But if I don't hear that, then I -- it makes me think you're on the other team. If I hear, well, you know, if the Democrats discover that Donald Trump actually did commit a crime, that makes me think, alright, you're a lib. You know, you're a Democrat shill. If you can't acknowledge the injustice of what they're doing to Trump while still effectively running against him, then you're not -- you're not it, man, you're not it.