JOE SCARBOROUGH (CO-HOST): There is not balance in these selections, and by selecting [Oklahoma Attorney General Scott] Pruitt for EPA, that has basically put Rex Tillerson out of the running for secretary of state.
MIKE BARNICLE: Rex Tillerson is a huge green guy.
SCARBOROUGH: You can't --
BARNICLE: Tillerson.
SCARBOROUGH: You say he's a huge green guy?
BARNICLE: Yes he is. Yeah.
STEVE RATTNER: Well, up to a point.
SCARBOROUGH: For a guy that's running ExxonMobil.
BARNICLE: For who he is --
MIKA BRZEZINSK (CO-HOST): Joe's like coughing up his coffee. What do you mean?
SCARBOROUGH: I'm just saying that he may be, but you cannot have the selection that you just had at EPA and then have the guy running Exxon Mobil for 20 years as your secretary of state. There has to be balance.
