KEVIN ROBERTS (HERITAGE FOUNDATION): And so if there's anyone who understands how you legally, appropriately, and aggressively use the Office of Management and Budget to do the will of the American people, rather than the will of Washington elites, it's Russ Vought.
FREDDIE SAYERS: Some of the, a lot maybe, of the Project 2025 agenda may now actually happen no matter what the candidate as then was, was saying, is that what - is that fair?
ROBERTS: It is fair and there's no doubt that that will happen. I don't mean that with any disrespect to President Trump, whom he knows, who is a friend. But just to say there is so much overlap between President Trump's official campaign platform, Agenda 47, and the policies in Project 2025. That's what I mean when I said that this is, it's sort of boring in one sense because it's not newsworthy that the Republican candidate for president would be saying many, if not most, of the same things that the conservative movement itself would be saying.