BARNES: Welcome back to The Beltway Boys.
Hot story number two, cruise control. Now, John McCain was obviously exaggerating a bit. I don't think he's gonna spend a lot of time campaigning in Rhode Island or California, but he was onto something, and that is -- onto what I think are two things. One, there's some states that have been fading from being blue. You know, there have been Republican states that I think he can do well in -- that's Colorado and New Mexico and Nevada for three. And then there's states that are red, or going red, that he can be competitive in and are tossups now.
So, you know, Karl Rove has done this map showing how the states stand now. And we can look at it first. John McCain versus Hillary Clinton. And it does show McCain winning Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado. And when you move to the East, into these Democratic states, they're tossups. Pennsylvania, which is -- usually goes Democratic in a presidential race, Ohio, which has been certainly tilting that way, New Hampshire, which went for John Kerry. Then look out in the West, you know, up top there, the state of Washington, a Democratic state, may go for McCain. So against Hillary he's -- he looks fairly strong.
Now, Karl has also done a map of McCain against Barack Obama. Doesn't look quite as good. It shows I think Obama winning Nevada and Colorado. New Mexico's a tossup. And you move to the East. I guess Pennsylvania and Ohio are still tossup states. But obviously, according to Karl Rove -- and I think I agree with him, and I suspect you do, too -- as it stands now, McCain runs much better, much more strongly against Hillary Clinton than he does against Barack Obama.
KONDRACKE: Yeah. Right. When McCain says that he's gonna campaign all over the country, he's not only talking about states -- going to states that Republicans don't normally go do, but also localities, like inner city African-American neighborhoods, Hispanic barrios, Appalachia, all those kind of places that Republicans rarely come to. And he's hoping that among Hispanics, he can match George Bush's 2004 record of 40 percent. And he well may because he's got a position on comprehensive immigration reform that's humanitarian.
Now, he's gotta to figure out how to separate himself from George W. Bush. I mean, you can't -- the Democrats are gonna try to tie him tightly to him. The technique that I've heard discussed is that at every speech, he's gonna talk about one of your favorite subjects, Fred: global climate change.
BARNES: Yeah. Well, that's what -- look, the way I rationalize that is McCain has to do one thing in this race -- he's gotta win back independents. They abandoned Republicans in 2006. Conservatives stayed there. You know, there's some conservatives who think that, well, we were mad at Republicans so we didn't vote Republican in 2006. Not true. It was independents. Maybe independents fall for that global warming stuff. But I don't.
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