TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): Asa Hutchinson is the governor of Arkansas and he joins us to talk about this story. Governor, thanks so much for coming on. I really appreciate it in the middle of all this. Now I think of you as a conservative; here you’ve come out publicly as pro-choice on the question of chemical castration of children. What changed?
GOV. ASA HUTCHINSON: Well, first of all, your teaser as you led in to this program did not accurately represent the bill.
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CARLSON: If I could just correct you for a second. This is chemical castration, of course; if you stop puberty and suppress the sex hormones, you are chemically castrating someone. So, our description was correct. … Why do you think it’s important for conservatives to make certain that children can block their puberty, be chemically castrated? Why is that a conservative value, if you would tell us?
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CARLSON: So you believe it’s health care. How much -- how deeply have you studied this topic? With respect, it doesn’t seem like you’ve studied it very deeply. I mean, this is an emerging field. There's not a lot of research, but the research that exists suggests that the depression and the urge to self-harm and suicide is a component, is a side effect of taking these hormones. A study in the U.K. showed the overwhelming majority of kids, of children on puberty-blocking hormones had the urge to hurt themselves. Why is that responsible medicine to do that to children? Why would you support something like that?
HUTCHINSON: Well, I actually reviewed some of that study. I reviewed the high court decision there, and I think they are different than what you are talking about here. Sure, there's a lot of unknowns here. I studied this bill and in contrast to what you just said, I spent a lot of time reviewing cases, meeting with people, listening to the experts as well as to faith leaders as well. And I'm a person of faith, but at the same time, I'm a person of limited role of government. I signed pro-life bills. I signed many bills that would be looked at as very conservative, but this is one that crosses the line. There is no need for it. And it doesn't justify itself.
CARLSON: I'm sorry, but hold on. You just said that you have seen research that shows the mental health of children who received puberty blocking drugs improves? What is that research exactly?
HUTCHINSON: Well, the research that I've seen shows that these troubled youth, these ones that have gender dysphoria, that they also have depression. They have suicidal tendencies. It's a higher suicide rate than others, and they go to their parents, the parents go to doctors, and they try to deal with this very difficult issue. I don't think we should deny them health care.