EDDIE GLAUDE: I think this is a really complicated story where news and entertainment blurred, where we get crossfire. There's a way in which we can tell a story from the 1970s and '80s and '90s to now, and we have the complexity of social media and the like. And then we have this -- this ideological moment, right?
Think about what Tucker Carlson said, Nicole. It's absolutely stupid on a certain level, but he's also trying to get us -- he's not trying to, but I think there's a moment when we can begin to pan out what is he saying, in a certain way?
Well, a world in which white men reign supreme is collapsing. They're losing their minds, such that they now want to murder people. That's what he's saying. The culture wars is the context for mass shooting. That's what he's saying. The grievance and hatred that he peddles is the source of these young 21-year-old and 22-year-olds going out killing babies, killing old people and killing folks on the fourth of July. Does that make sense? No, but it does point to something fundamental, that the fabric of the country has shredded. It's breaking, it's broke, we're broken.