CHUCK TODD: Why do you see so easily go to Nazi metaphors? You refer to -- when you were talking about health care you referred to the Gestapo. A lot of times, the minute you talk about the Nazis, the minute you talk about the Holocaust, people stop listening.
BEN CARSON: Although interestingly enough, in the last several weeks, I've heard from many people in the Jewish community, including rabbis, who said, “You're spot on. You are exactly right.” And I think it's -- some of the people in your business, quite frankly, who like to try to stir things up and try to make this into a big horrible thing. If I say something about something that we don't want to become and we never even want to get close to it, then I'm comparing it and I'm& saying we're there. That's what they do. And, of course, for people who aren't really thinking deeply, you know, that resonates. But the fortunate thing is a lot of people really do think for themselves, as you can see from the poll numbers here.
TODD: You talked about, you said a lot of Jewish people reached out to you about, saying you were spot on. So you believe that if the Jewish citizenry were armed during the Holocaust, during '40s, that they would have been able to stop the Nazis?
CARSON: Well, look at the whole context in which I've said that and which I've written about it. I wrote about societies before tyranny was able to take root, that the tyrants tried to rid the people of the mechanism to defend themselves. So it was set in that context. And I think it is generally agreed that it's much more difficult to dominate people who are armed than people who are not armed.
