MARTHA MACCALLUM: Donald Trump and John Kasich sparring over immigration and just how different their plans are. And probably the most Googled part of the debate, Trump referencing an immigration plan from the 1950s. Watch.
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DONALD TRUMP: Let me just tell you that Dwight Eisenhower -- good president, great president. People liked him. I like Ike, right, the expression? I like Ike -- moved a million-and-a-half illegal immigrants out of this country. Moved them just beyond the border. They came back. Moved them again beyond the border. They came back. Didn't like it. Moved them way south. They never came back.
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MACCALLUM: Trump there referring to an initiative under President Eisenhower that started in 1954, and by the end of the decade, illegal immigration had dropped by 95 percent.
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MACCALLUM: That was one of the most thought-provoking exchanges of the evening, I thought.
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MACCALLUM: I sense, Jonah, and I want to get your reaction to this, that there's sort of a hunger for conservative idealism, for somebody to kind of swing for the fences and say, yeah we can do that. You know, even if it isn't Donald Trump's case, which is his idea of it -- he wants to kick everybody out, and maybe if he gets to try to carry out that plan, it turns out being 1.3 million but it sends a message, and at least he's saying, we can do it. And John Kasich was saying, we can't do that. And so what bears out in a more strong way, do you think, with voters, Jonah?
