SANDRA SMITH (CO-HOST): Based on everything Bill is saying, what we heard from Charles, is the national conversation on our refugee program, it's the wrong one.
MELISSA FRANCIS (CO-HOST): You know, I mean that's just one way to get in, and I would say, I heard somebody say at beginning of this is that was so true, any way that there's possible for a terrorist to come into the country, they're trying and they've tried and they're going to try. So I mean trying to isolate one particular way, I don't think is going to get it done. I think a lot of it has to do with the conversation. I love what Mike McCaul had to say. Because he told us what we already know in our hearts to be true. That they're trying to come in this way. And that's what bothers me again about when they say there is no known threat. We say of course there is a threat. You just don't know where it is. So I think they have to speak plainly to the American public, and we have to be on guard everywhere.
SMITH: But it goes back to Andrea, your point and your argument all along was, then when we do allow the refugee program to be amped up and we let even more into this country, we have to depend on the government's vetting process to be accurate and carry it out thoroughly.
ANDREA TANTAROS (CO-HOST): And Sandra, there is no vetting process. I mean I literally have outlined it like this. What do we do, your name is Muhammad? Okay, I'll call the police chief in Raqqa. Hey, do you know Muhammed? No, call his brother Muhammed. There is no way to vet them, there is no paperwork.
