BRIAN LEVIN: One of the things that we have seen though has been you're unanimous support among the most hardened, horrible racist folks. I'm not talking about conservatives of goodwill. Do you know I’m having an evangelical pastor come address my class this week? So, we are not talking about conservative people of goodwill. What I'm saying is we're looking at websites like The Daily Stormer which encouraged their supporters to harass minorities. We are seeing horrible incidents involving --
BILL O’REILLY (HOST): But they have always done that. They have always done that.
LEVIN: No. No. What we’re seeing now -- No. No. If you look at something I said on another network four years ago when I was asked, “Who do these hate groups support, is it John McCain is it Mitt Romney?” I said, “No.” This time we have seen Euro-nationalist groups come out and support Donald Trump.
O’REILLY: But you know why that is.
LEVIN: Pardon me?
O’REILLY: You know why they came out and supported Donald Trump. You know why.
LEVIN: Well, it's because of this Euro-nationalist message.
O’REILLY: No, no, it was because of the wall. It was as simple as that, because of the wall. He was the only one that said we are going to keep out, you know, drug dealers, and people who shouldn't come here because they don't have proper papers. Come on, that’s why they support him.
LEVIN: Bill. If I may though, not all these statements were policy-driven. And you must acknowledge that there have been bigoted statements relating to undocumented crime. Undocumented people have a lower crime rate than the general public at large, for instance. And attacking American Mexican judges --
O’REILLY: The judge thing was because of a civil beef that he is involved with. And he said “because I said build the wall, I can't get a fair play.” I didn't think that was a smart thing, professor.
LEVIN: He tweeted stuff from white supremacists.
O’REILLY: But you have to extrapolate the data and the data says at this point in American history, the incidences of hate crime that we know about are very low. Very low.
