CHRIS CUOMO (CO-HOST): How important politically will this be as a credibility battle for these GOPers who are on the fence?
DAVID GREGORY: Yeah, I think that's very important. And I think that the question is to what extent they fear reprisals from the president. Do they fear the politics? Or, do they feel that he is so weakened that they can step out and be independent? What you'd like to see is some actual courage here. And --
CUOMO: But it will take courage. Is there any sign that he's been weakened? He's certainly getting beat up and not helped by how they're handling it. But the base numbers, every time they measure it, strong.
GREGORY: Well they are strong for now, but they've been getting weaker. I'm certainly not going to predict the president's political future. We've all been wrong about that. But I also think we have to take things one step at a time. I mean, within the media itself, you got Fox News out there savaging everybody, talking about, “This is activism over journalism.” Stop, stop yourselves, OK? Let's just keep our eye -- journalism matters. We have been reminded of that in the past few days. There's been great journalism that’s come under the Trump administration. Everybody's got to do their job. Journalists do their job. See where that takes you. Congress has got to do its job. You've got a president who is both ill-informed and does not have experience and who thinks he can bully his way through our democratic system.