MATT SCHLAPP (CHAIRMAN, AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION): I also think when it just says she lies, she lies, she lies -- now look, we have big political disagreements in this country, and I think it's wrong for journalists to take that next step. And granted, she's a comedian, but plenty of journalists do it as well, is they take the next step. Just present the facts. Let the American people decide if they think someon's lying. The journalists shouldn't be the one to say that the president or that his spokesperson is lying, because what that does to 50 percent of the country is it makes them feel like they're not credible to listen to anymore.
ALISYN CAMEROTA (CO-HOST): I understand that debate. Obviously, we're fact-based, so when the president is fact-free or he doesn't stick to the facts, we do have to call that out.
