JOHN BERMAN (HOST): Secretary of State [Mike] Pompeo was asked about the issue of verification when it comes to the nuclear discussions with North Korea, which is crucial, which I know you know is crucial. There's nothing more important than verification. But when he was pressed on it, he got indignant. He suggested that the questions were insulting and ridiculous and frankly ludicrous. Questions about verification aren't insulting, are they, Senator?
RICK SANTORUM (CNN COMMENTATOR): No. But I think the idea that there would not be a verification and that the administration and he doesn't -- excuse me, Secretary Pompeo doesn't understand that verification is a sine qua non for any agreement going forward is ridiculous. That is insulting to suggest that we're not going to require specifics on verification.
BERMAN: But you need specifics on -- It's not insulting to ask for specifics on verification, Senator. It's crucial.
SANTORUM: I think at this point -- at this point, I think, when you're really just at a very high-level discussion as to what the goals of the agreement are -- yeah, to get into the details of verification at this point is probably way ahead of schedule. And I want to make a comment on the media question here because, look, I agree that Donald Trump's statements or the statements from the administration criticizing the press are beyond the pale. But I would also say that the media has some blame here too. I think both the coverage of this president and the negativity directed at this president, as well as the president's response to that negativity have both been disruptive. And I don't think there's a really good guy in this whole battle between the administration and the media at this point.
