STAR PARKER (FOUNDER, CENTER FOR URBAN RENEWAL AND EDUCATION): Remember now, what happened with the SNAP program, if you go back, even to the Bush Administration, prior to President Bush, there were like, food stamps. So they had this stigma about them, so people wouldn't want to be on even if they qualify. But now it's like an EBT swipe card, it's a debit card. So they take the shame out of it. The next thing you know you have an economic crash. And so during the time of Obama there were many, many more Americans -- remember, most of our safety net programs are for -- for you to get back on your feet. They're not what we've seen lately --
STEVE DOOCY (CO-HOST): Short term.
PARKER: Yeah, short term. Not generational. And so what the Trump Administration is saying is, come on guys, the economy’s doing good. Why are you still sitting around? People here in Washington, in particular AEI [American Enterprise Institute], has done extensive studies on this to show that what they're calling them now are watchers. These guys are not working. They're watching. They're watching porn, they're watching TV, they're watching women, they're watching everything, but they're not working. And this is what this initiative is attempting to do, is to get them back into their own lives so that they can prosper.