NBC News' Russert Grills Tony Perkins Over DOMA Views

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NBC News correspondent Luke Russert challenged Family Research Council (FRC) president Tony Perkins over his views on same-sex parenting, pointing out that research used to back Perkins' claims is deeply flawed.

During the March 27 edition of MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell Reports, guest host Russert invited Perkins to explain his views on the federal Defense of Marriage Act's (DOMA) constitutionality and the supposed harms of legalizing same-sex marriage. Perkins incorrectly asserted that the part of DOMA being challenged in court actually protected states' rights before going on to claim that studies showed children did best when raised by a heterosexual couple:

PERKINS: When you look at the amount of social science research that we have amassed over the last several decades, it's clear that kids do best with a mom and a dad ... The evidence does not suggest that children do best just with two parents or three parents. The evidence says a mom and a dad. So, from a public policy standpoint, our preference is that children have a mom and a dad.

After Russert pushed back against Perkins' claim, the two scuffled over a notorious study on same-sex parenting conducted by University of Texas associate professor Mark Regnerus:

RUSSERT: Yes, but there are studies also, especially from the American Academy of Pediatrics, which suggest that having a two-person home, even if it is a same-sex couple, is actually beneficial for children. So there are questions about your facts on that question. I'd like to ask you, though -


PERKINS: It's interesting that they failed to acknowledge one of the most widespread, deep surveys on that that Mark Regnerus did out of Texas. They completely ignored that, and of course the American College of Pediatricians - 

RUSSERT: Right, but on that survey there was real questions about A its funding, which was done by some conservative backers, as well as the questioning methods, and we can have a research methods debate at another time. 

Russert went on to ask what Perkins "fear[ed]" about allowing loving, committed same-sex couples to get married, prompting Perkins to warn about a potential influx of immigrant polygamists.

Russert deserves praise for being informed about the large number of problems with the deeply flawed research done by Regnerus on the issue of same-sex parenting. He was also correct for noting the emerging expert consensus that children raised by same-sex parents fare just as well as those raised by heterosexual parents.

As junk science continues to taint the Supreme Court's examination of the debate over same-sex marriage, other media outlets would do well to follow Russert's lead and familiarize themselves with conservatives' flawed research about same-sex families.

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