BERNIE GOLDBERG: This isn't a newspaper. You know who the clowns are? The clowns are the people who put out that kind of stuff.
BILL O'REILLY (HOST): But I'm just telling you that when the journalistic entity, whatever it may be, doesn't care anymore, about journalism, then it's a hopeless cause, and that's where we are in the United States.
GOLDBERG: I agree. I totally agree.
O'REILLY: We're in the United States and how many times do I have to present beyond a reasonable doubt -- Look, you saw on NBC News the moderator of a debate hug Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. You're steeped in CBS news, as am I, I was at ABC News as well. Can you imagine when we were working there a moderator of a debate hugging after the debate was over -- I think she wanted to hug them during the debate but the camera couldn't get into position -- so she had to wait until after the debate.
GOLDBERG: You know, I was trying to be super generous and thinking well, maybe that's the way a woman just shakes hands and says thank you. But there is no way in the world that Rachel Maddow would have hugged Donald Trump and Ted Cruz and Chris Christie and Marco Rubio if she were moderating a Republican debate. So you're right
O'REILLY: And to Fox News' credit there isn't anybody on this network that would have hugged a presidential contender after a debate. No one. No one. So what I'm trying to get across is that we're living in an age where you say journalism, many of the press entities aren't that anymore. They're not. They're in another business. It's another business model.
