RAYMOND ARROYO: [The bishops] are meeting today, actually, in Baltimore. You'll hear nothing about it. No news at all.
LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): Are they meeting about how to figure out how to denounce Donald Trump? What's the meeting --
ARROYO: No. I think they're just trying to figure out how to survive. I mean, look, some of these men are holy and really good, wonderful guys, and speak out forcefully at great cost. There are others who are politicians. But this is the nature of the whole thing from the beginning of time. People tell me, you know, aren't you upset? Jesus handpicked 12 guys. Eleven of them walked out on him, OK? One stayed around during the rough times. That's what you're going to get. One in 12 are going to be worth a damn. So that's what I think is happening there. We'll see. Bishops are going to have a tough time in the age of Pope Francis finding common ground with Donald Trump. And, as I told you back in March when I traveled to these primary states on book tour, people were telling me, evangelicals and Catholics, I'm supporting Trump -- because everyone was scratching their heads, why are they supporting Donald Trump? -- and they told me, I'm supporting Trump because he's a check of my church's forays into politics. We don't think the church should be involved in politics, they told me, in immigration, and in the green debate, and climate change. So, when you look at it that way, you realize, there's a real tension among the people --
INGRAHAM: Aren't they supposed to be saving souls, not saving trees?
ARROYO: Well, but again, Pope Francis has put an emphasis on creation as a whole. You love life? Well, that's part of God's whole creation, so you have to love it all, protect it all.
INGRAHAM: I don't like that. I don't like that. I like the John Paul the two.
