DAVID PLOUFFE (OBAMA 2008 CAMPAIGN MANAGER): I look at it as this way. We've never had a president this obsessed with getting reelected. I worked for Barack Obama, had more than a passing interest. Trump's got this network, he's got his unofficial campaign chairman Vladimir Putin, he's got billions of dollars, he's a brilliant marker --
BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): But that is not right. Don't say he's an unofficial campaign chairman, Vladimir Putin. That's --
PLOUFFE: Listen, he got help last time --
KILMEADE: And he doesn't have the whole network. Every show here is different.
PLOUFFE: Well --
KILMEADE: And if you talked to him last night on Sean Hannity, he's not happy with this network.
PLOUFFE: Listen, this is his happy place. It's like his own political Westworld, where he can be the man he wants to be, not the man he is.
KILMEADE: He knows it's the number one channel in America. We beat every channel, no matter the format. That's what he knows.
PLOUFFE: This is not a debate, OK? This is -- the news media, media outlets should hold the powerful to account, not the account to the powerful.
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STEVE DOOCY (CO-HOST): You made a good point. We are the number one cable morning news show, we're the number one news channel, so this is where the eyeballs are.