Charlie Kirk says the Arizona court decision banning abortion “should have been met with celebration”
Matt Walsh to Kirk: “The overturning of Roe v. Wade is one of the one of the great victories for for human rights that has ever been achieved in the history of human civilization”
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From the April 10, 2024, edition of The Charlie Kirk Show, streamed on Rumble
CHARLIE KIRK (HOST): So, Matt, can you comment on the conservative movement and some Republicans that have been telling us they're pro-life and they're being revealed they're actually not very pro-life, especially in this last week, the last couple days where people say, well, I'm not that pro-life. What's your comment on this?
MATT WALSH (GUEST): Yeah. I mean, that's — it doesn't surprise me because this is, to some extent — this is what we've seen for decades now in the Republican Party. In fact, what we're being told right now is that the way to win elections is to moderate your position on abortion, is to be at least a little bit pro-abortion. And the thing is that's what those of us who've been in the pro-life movement for a long time, we know that — we've been hearing that — this is not a new thing. It's not a new insight. This is what the Republican Party has been saying my entire life. They've been insisting that the only way to win elections is to basically, you know, forfeit the pro-life position to some extent. It doesn't seem to have worked out so far.
And the other problem too is that, you know, what we're being told is that, OK, well, we have to treat it as a state's rights issue. Now, I don't agree with that. I think that, again, killing babies is always wrong no matter what and it shouldn't, you know — no state should have the the right to kill babies. But if that is the position that a conservative takes, well, then it doesn't make any sense to then turn around and oppose the states that are outlawing it. Because you just — if you're, kind of, way to navigate this is to say, well, make it states' rights. Well, then what happens when a state does outlaw it? If you turn around and oppose that too, well then it appears that you're just pro-abortion. And that's some of what we're seeing in Arizona right now where, you know, after the Supreme Court decision, a law is gonna go into effect. It's not a federal law. It's a law in that particular state that's gonna ban most abortions. And yet we have people on the right who appear to be opposed to that too. Which doesn't make any sense to me if you're claiming that this is state's rights. Well, that's — the state has the right to pass that law, don't they?
KIRK: And it's been eye-opening to me because what should have been met with celebration, Matt, was met with retreat. And —
WALSH: Exactly.
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WALSH: That is the most frustrating thing for me. You know, the overturning of Roe v. Wade is one of the one of the great victories for for human rights that has ever been achieved in the history of human civilization, it's not an exaggeration, was the overturning of that evil, ridiculous law or decision. And rather than doing what the left does, which is when they get a victory, they gloat about it, they celebrate, and then they immediately look for, like, what can we do next? How can we double down? Where where do we take this next? What's the next victory? They're never satisfied. And instead, what we've done on the right, in many corners anyway, is we've responded by we're embarrassed of the victory. We don't want to talk about it. We're, you know, we seem to be disappointed that it happened because it's politically inconvenient and we're now retreating, you know, kind of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, which I think is one of the essential differences between the right and left.