BLITZER: If you were president, and Nouri al-Maliki is still the elected prime minister of Iraq, and he says he wants all U.S. troops out, what do you do?
McCAIN: Well, first of all, I know Prime Minister Maliki rather well. I know that he is a politician, and I know that they are looking at upcoming elections. I know that he knows and every -- and the other leaders know there that it has to be condition-based. Any withdrawals -- which we will withdraw. We have succeeded. The surge has succeeded. And we're on the road to victory. And we will be out of there. And we may have a residual presence of some kind, as I've always said. But the fact is, the surge has succeeded. And the fundamental here is that I supported that surge when it was not the popular thing to do.
Senator Obama opposed it, said it wouldn't work, even voted to cut off the funds for the men and women who are fighting over there and still -- and he still doesn't understand to the point where he doesn't agree that the surge has succeeded. No rational observer, no rational observer who sees the conditions in Iraq today as opposed to two years ago could possibly, could possibly conclude that the surge hasn't succeeded. So he sees it as a political issue. He doesn't understand the importance of this victory and the consequences of failure and the benefits of success.
If we had done what Senator Obama wanted to do -- which, by the way, initially would have been the troops out last March -- we would have had greater Iranian influence. We would have had an increase in sectarian violence. We would have seen possibly a wider war in the region, which would have drawn us back. So I can assure you that Prime Minister Maliki understands that conditions have to be kept. And I want to find -- tell you again. General [David] Petraeus, one of the great generals in history, strongly disagrees with Senator Obama. And our highest-ranking military officer also says it would be a very dangerous course. We're not going to go down that road.
BLITZER: But if Maliki persists -- you're president, and he says he wants U.S. troops out, and he wants them out, let's say in a year or two years or 16 months or whatever, what do you do? Do you just -- do you listen to the prime minister?
McCAIN: He won't. He won't, he won't.