From the September 30 edition of CNN's New Day:
CNN's Alisyn Camerota And Maria Cardona Shut Down Ben Ferguson's Lies About The Debunked Videos Smearing Planned Parenthood
Camerota: Defunding Planned Parenthood And Stopping Accesss To Reproductive Health Care “Obviously ... Takes Away A Woman's Right To Choose”
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CHRIS CUOMO: We heard the accusations, we heard the answers. So, should Planned Parenthood be defunded? To discuss, Ben Ferguson, CNN political commentator host of The Ben Ferguson Show, and Maria Cardona, CNN political commentator and democratic strategist. Ben, take the prosecution, because that's really what this is. What's the best case to get rid of Planned Parenthood or defund it, in essence, and, Maria, you respond.
BEN FERGUSON: The fact that they have people on camera talking about selling baby parts is where I would start. And I want to make this very clear -- this is not about taking away a woman's right to choose. This -- if we defund planned parenthood, this does not change Roe v. Wade. So people that are trying to fearmonger, saying, this is trying to away a woman's right to choose, it's not. This is about --
CAMEROTA: Ben, Ben, I have to stop you there. Ben, hold on.
BEN FERGUSON: Alisyn, no, no, let me finish.
CAMEROTA: No, hold on Ben, because if you stop access obviously it does take away a woman's right to choose.
FERGUSON: Let me finish. Let me finish.
CAMEROTA: Go ahead.
FERGUSON Let me finish. You have the same right if we defunded Planned Parenthood with my tax dollars. And the point is this, you don't take a half a billion dollars of taxpayer funds to give to an organization that butchers babies to sell their parts and was caught on camera multiple times. You can say that these videos were doctored. There are multiple videos that have been put out in their full length that are not doctored that blatantly show people in leadership roles at Planned Parenthood selling baby parts, which has nothing to do with a woman's right to choose. I want to make that very clear. And that's why my tax dollars shouldn't go to it.
CAMEROTA: Maria, I want to give you the opportunity to respond here. But what Ben is saying is a fact is exactly what Planned Parenthood is saying is not a fact. They're trying to recoup their cost for something that's purely legal, and that is donation of fetal tissue. Maria, go.
MARIA CARDONA: That's exactly right. I think that the facts here matter, even though I know that Republicans love to live in a fact-free zone. Number one, Planned Parenthood is an organization nationwide that gives access to life-saving health care services to 2.7 million Americans every single year. If you take away the funding from Planned Parenthood, that will go away. And, yes, 3 percent of that goes to abortion services. And none of that is paid -- none of the abortion part, except for the ones that are allowed under the law, is paid by taxpayer dollars.
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CARDONA: Hang on. Let me finish, Ben. The part that the videos show, by the way, those videos have already been debunked by a forensic investigation, they were sliced, diced and spliced.
FERGUSON: They haven't been debunked.
CARDONA: And in today's digital world, you can take videos to show whatever you want to show, and that's exactly what this organization did. And by the way, this organization has been focused on trying to away a woman's right to choose for many, many years.
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CARDONA: The bottom line is, Ben, what Planned Parenthood did was absolutely legal. It was less than 1 percent of services that they provide. And more than anything what they do is provide life-saving services to women across the country.
Previously:
A Comprehensive Guide To The Deceptively-Edited Videos Used Against Planned Parenthood
CBO: Defunding Planned Parenthood Would Cost The Government $13M Over Next Decade
Independent Analysis Finds Evidence Of “Manipulation” In Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos