MICHAEL GRIMM (HOST): Recently Dick Morris wrote to his readers on Dick Morris dot com that he invested in bought shares in Newsmax's pre-IPO shares that are now available. Advisor to Donald Trump and host of Dick Morris Democracy joins me now to explain why he's big on Trump and on Newsmax. Dick, thank you so much for joining us. Now, you were there at Fox from the very beginning, and now you're at Newsmax. What happened?
DICK MORRIS (GUEST): Yeah, well, I was — I feel like I've been had, you know? We were told that Biden was fine, that he would be able to function, that he was not mentally deteriorated. And then we see him in this debate, and we learned that this was all baloney, that Biden is in terrible condition. He can't function as president. And then the media told us all about how, oh, Trump has no immunity from prosecution. He's facing great peril. He might lose in the courts. And then the court has ruled that it's fine, that he's got conditional immunity. And I'm just tired of the mainstream media lying to me. And Newsmax is the only place where you can get the truth. Where you can get fair and balanced coverage. And if Trump gets elected, that becomes very, very important.
And you're right, Michael, I was at Fox at the very beginning, literally the first day it was on. And it used to be an impartial station. Now, since Murdoch took it over and since he became a liberal, it's his stamp is on it. And you can't get accurate information there anymore, any more than you can get from the networks. So I was thrilled when I learned that Newsmax is having an IPO, which basically says instead of being owned by a corporate mogul or a corporation like ABC, it will be owned by you, our viewers. And the only string we'll have is to you. And that's great. And I jumped at it, and I invested my own money in it. And I feel that it's not just a —
GRIMM: That's great. Listen, I just wanted to ask you —
MORRIS: I think it's --
GRIMM: I just wanted to ask you quickly. Go ahead.
MORRIS: It's not just a great financial return because the network's growing revenues are up 300 percent, but it's a political imperative for us to support the news outlet that tells people the truth about our next president, about Donald Trump, and to not be caught up in the lies of the mainstream media.
GRIMM: No, I couldn't agree with you more. But I also wanted to mention, you're a very close advisor to President Trump. He's called you his political counselor. How does he view Newsmax?
MORRIS: Well, he's publicly said that it's terrific. And he goes on a lot — and he really appreciates the fact that Newsmax is the only station that covers his campaign rallies. And as he saw in the debate, his views on issues are shaped by what he says in these rallies. And I think that he's going to be working very closely with Newsmax because he has no choice. There's no other network that tells people the truth about it.
GRIMM: So if he does get elected and the polls certainly look that way, and after the last debate, I don't know why anyone would even consider — even if you're a lefty, voting for someone that doesn't know where he is on the stage and can't get his words together. But what do you think happens with Newsmax if President Trump wins the next election?
MORRIS: I think it overtakes Fox News. I think it overtakes the networks. And I think that, you know, it becomes sort of the free equivalent of radio to Moscow. It tells us the truth in a way that — what's really going on. And it doesn't listen to the bias of the rest of the media. And I think that Trump is going to use it extensively to tell us what he's thinking and what he's planning and what he's doing. And I think that if you want to know what Trump is doing in the middle of this revolution of the country, you want to have access to Newsmax. And if you want to have access to Newsmax, you might as well own it because then you can make sure it's honest.