CHRIS CUOMO (CO-HOST): OK, here's the challenge, Carl. We just had Rudy Giuliani here, whose theme was very simple. “I don't care what you say about Trump. She lies more. She's less trustworthy. Whatever he does, that's who he is. It's not as big a deal as her.” What can she do tonight to take on the trust challenge?
CARL BERNSTEIN: First of all, Mayor Giuliani is wrong. Donald Trump has shown himself to be a pathological liar through this campaign. And last night, [former New York City Mayor] Mike Bloomberg, who knows him well, set things up when he said, “We need a sane president.” I think we now have in the mix the question of Donald Trump's stability. Beyond the fact that he's reckless, beyond the fact that he's a sham businessman. And those are the negative issues that this convention has developed. And Hillary Clinton, happily for her, has had the greatest surrogates in the world to finally give a picture of the whole woman. That's why I did this biography. She's the most famous -- somebody else said it, the most famous woman in the world. She's not really known as a whole person. She has to carry herself now. She's had [President] Obama. She's had Michelle Obama. She's had her husband do it. She's had [Sen.] Cory Booker [(D-NJ)]. They have been fabulous in defining her and she has been unable to do herself.
