VAN JONES: Here's what I saw. You had people who were Nazis, who were armed, who were going with torches into a city. I think if Nazis marched into your neighborhood, marched on your house, and you came out with a side arm and said, “Hey, get away from here, you're a Nazi, you've got weapons, you've got torches, back up,” I don't think anybody would call you violent. I think people would say you are correct to try to protect yourself from Nazis. Do you think that people don't have a right to defend themselves against Nazis? I just don't understand what you're saying.



DARRELL SCOTT: If I heard that the Nazis were marching across town and I armed myself and went across town to prevent their march, then I have evil intent. Go walking across my grass -- walking across my grass is one thing --



GLORIA BORGER: Oh really? Really? Wouldn't that be self-defense?



SCOTT: How is it self defense if I come to you? And you don't come to me?



BORGER: Well, I have a question. If Nazis, we have seen this --



SCOTT: How many gun shots went off at that meeting? How many -- how many people got shot by a white supremacist?



JONES: Well, somebody -- a woman was murdered. Wait, hold on a second --



SCOTT: How many people were shot by a white supremacist? How many guns went off? How much gun fired did we hear? I don't think we heard any.



JONES: I'm confused. Reverend, reverend --



SCOTT: One person was run over by a car, you're absolutely right and that was horrible.



JONES: But reverend -- but reverend --



SCOTT: If that's the case, then anybody that drove up there went with a weapon then.

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