STEVE DOOCY (CO-HOST): Mr. Mayor, one of the reasons we wanted to talk to you, David, was the fact that, here in this country, you know, we're all wondering whether or not the president's going to shut down the government on Friday if the Democrats don't give him $5 billion for a border wall. Democrats say that that is inefficient, it's expensive, and walls don't work. What is your message for those Democrats who say that walls don't work?
DAVID RUBIN (FORMER MAYOR, SHILOH, ISRAEL): Well, they're wrong. I mean, I can't state it any clearer than that. In Israel, between the years 2010 and 2012, there were 55,000 illegal immigrants that slipped into Israel from Eritrea and Sudan mainly, and they settled in South Tel Aviv. Before long, South Tel Aviv had a skyrocketing amount of rapes and murders, and things were very bad, and there were massive protests by the residents of South Tel Aviv and other towns where the illegal immigrants had settled. Israel's government decided that it was time to setup a physical barrier on the entire length of the Egypt-Israel southern border, and that's what they did, they built a steel, high-tech wall on that border -- wall, fence, whatever you want to call it. And the fact is that within a year, in 2016, only 11 immigrants entered. Now, you have to remember, 55,000 immigrants coming into a tiny country like Israel, which is smaller than the state of New Jersey, is a tremendous amount of people. And the social upheaval was intense. In 2016 after the wall was built, only eleven immigrants entered. In 2017, after the height of the wall was raised, the illegal immigration was completely shut down and it hasn't been a problem since then.
AINSLEY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): So, if you look at the numbers, it works
