AINSLEY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): Everyone wants good health care.
TOM COBURN (FORMER U.S. SENATOR): Sure.
EARHARDT: But when you have these politicians that are running around that say Medicare for All, we keep hearing the question: How are we going to pay for it? When you talk about all the fraud already that's in there, then they want more of our tax dollars, our hard-working money to throw at a problem that --
COBURN: Well they're just saying we're going to copy what everybody else is doing, except everybody else rations throughout the rest of the world, they won't recognize that as a downside to it. So, you know, in a lot of countries if you fall and break your hip at 75 years of age, you don't get it fixed, you know? You're over. You know, you may eventually recover from that but they don't spend 8,000 bucks giving you a new hip.
EARHARDT: You just lie there with a broken bone until it heals itself?
COBURN: Yeah. So the fact is is, ideally, what we should have is everybody should have access and great care. And those are policies we can get behind. Everybody can get behind that. So how do you do that effectively? And you do that with price transparency. We can save -- the studies show between $400 billion and $1.2 trillion a year if in fact we have price discovery and people making choices based on walking with their feet where they get the best value and the best deal.