AINSLEY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): Speaking of a city, right over here at Port Authority at the beginning of the week, we had a guy try to blow up a bunch of people in the subway. Thankfully, he was not successful. He got into our country through chain migration. So if your -- if his family had 17 kids, all of them can come in, all of their kids can come in, all of grandparents can come in. What do you think about it?
GERALDO RIVERA: Well, first of all, I was absolutely agonizing over not being in New York on Monday. I was in Cleveland, our new home. And I felt so much for Times Square a block away, and it was awful what happened. And thank God he was an absolute bumble bum that he blew his own belly. I want them all to end that way.
On the issue of immigration, I think the visa lottery has outlived its usefulness. I think that when you compare the Visa diversity lottery recipients, winners, with the DREAM Act students, for example -- if you're talking about groups of immigrants -- one is absolutely unvetted or only vetted after the fact. The other is so vetted that you know whether they have a cavity or not. You know exactly where they were born. You know exactly what they're doing. You know exactly where they are now. That I think, the DREAM Act, is exactly the way immigration should happen. The Visa lottery, why this whole concept of winning? It's not about gambling. It's about -- immigration should serve, yes, a humanitarian purpose. But also, it should also strengthen the country.
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PETE HEGSETH (CO-HOST): Should chain migration be significantly curtailed? Because --
RIVERA: It depends.
HEGSETH: Take Somalis in Minneapolis, where we've had some serious terror issues. The entire city of Mogadishu's coming if you don't put some barriers around it.
RIVERA: Right. And having covered Mogadishu from the ground, I can tell you it's a place that does not breed people who are going to study and be law-abiding. It's a crazy, anarchistic, violence place.
