JON SCOTT (CO-HOST): Is there too much fawning in the media, Judy?
JUDITH MILLER: Well, in general there is, but I thought that last night was really an amazing night. It was not only a historic night in terms of the nomination of the first woman as the head of a major party to perhaps become the next president of the United States, but also, frankly, it was just a better show than the Republicans put on, and we weren't expecting that. We were expecting the veteran hero of The Apprentice to be able to organize a great show, but it was kind of a mess, and the Democrats were so well-scripted. Their primetime speakers actually appeared in primetime, their nominee did not step on the lines and the appearances of some of their top speakers, and the charismatically-challenged Mrs.Clinton managed to pull off a rather extraordinary speech that kind of listed her own accomplishments, which we've come to expect from her, but also went after Donald Trump in a very passionate way. So if you don't like her and you love him, you hated the speech, but most Americans, more Americans watched that last night than watched Donald Trump. So I think you have to say that so far, and I agree with Ellen, we have to hold both candidates’ feet to the fire, but so far the Democrats have just done a better job.
SCOTT: Almost, well, Ellen, I guess, because Hillary Clinton has been running for president effectively for 20 years, it's almost lost on me that it was a groundbreaking moment. She was supposed to be the sure thing candidate in 2008, and she didn't get there. The fact that we’ve nominated, I mean maybe it's because I'm a man, but the fact that we’ve nominated a woman, it just didn't seem like such a big deal because it's Hillary Clinton and she's been running forever.
ELLEN RATNER: Well, maybe, but you know something, as you know I work in Africa, and they've said to me many times, “Oh, you guys will never have a woman president, you'll never have a woman nominee.” They are still stuck way back when, and, so for them, for us to have a woman nominee, and perhaps a woman president, is amazing to them. So some parts of the world still think it's amazing
SCOTT: And the camera captured the tears streaming down the faces of some of the women in the audience last night, Judy. Obviously there is an impact that is somewhat lost on me.
