MARK SIMONE (GUEST): This will dominate the news for days because they think it will hurt Donald Trump. This issue does not hurt Donald Trump, he's not against abortion. He's actually okay with abortion, he wants that 15 week limit. Perfectly reasonable.
LARRY KUDLOW (HOST): Wait, wait. He didn't say 15 weeks, that's not quoting him. Yesterday, he had a different take, he didn't say 15 weeks. He said, "Let the states decide." A point I have to agree with, by the way wholeheartedly. But I can't pin 15 weeks on him because it's not what he said.
SIMONE: Okay, but that makes him the pro choice candidate. Leave it up to the states, let them choose, let them do what they want. Here's the key fact to everything: since the Dobbs decision, abortions are up 10% in America. They had been on the decline for years, last year they were up 10% so obviously --
KUDLOW: Well, I am sorry to hear that.
SIMONE: Well, yeah, I mean we don't want to see any abortions.
KUDLOW: Speaking personally.
SIMONE: But if someone needs one and they live in Arizona, it just means they'll have to go to neighboring state. One hundred and fifty four people did that last year. It's not an unreasonable position that Trump has.
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KUDLOW: I'm assuming most Republicans will oppose this but not all. All Democrats will oppose this decision -- I mean this is tricky business. How does this play out?
SIMONE: It hurts Trump for a few days and then people start to realize this not the worst thing in the world.
KUDLOW: He may come out -- he'll come out against it -- oh no, maybe he won't. Remember his point was the legislature, Mark. He didn't mention the courts, so this is tricky. State supreme court, does that qualify as a state decision?
SIMONE: Yeah, it is to be pro-choice, states can decide. If you had to travel to another state to get an abortion, it's not the worst thing in the world. Hopefully this is a very rare occurrence in your life, once in your life, maybe you would do it. Buying a bus ticket to go somewhere to get it is not worst thing in the world.