CALLER: Dan, I got a question for you, and it's -- I'm not trying to be flippant, but I, I'm just curious what type of blinders you have on that, that, if you are aware that Boulder's known as a sanctuary city, then you ought to be aware they're going to have gang violence there.
CAPLIS: Hmm. Well, a couple of things. First of all, I think it's way too early to get deep into the immigration aspect of this, because I'm assuming everybody involved was there, is here legally. Maybe they aren't, but, but I think we need to wait to get those facts. Now, obviously, before this show, [caller], we tried to get those facts for you, but the Boulder Police Department isn't talking to us. The Boulder mayor's office isn't talking to us. The principal's office isn't talking to us. So, read into that what you wish, but I think it's better to wait until we get the paperwork and, and drill down to this. In terms of a sanctuary city, I -- you know, there you can get tied up in the semantics forever --
CALLER: Well, we don't have to even go there with, with that. It makes no difference to whether it's a sanctuary city or not. If you have a heavy population of, of low-income people in an area like that, it's going to be like a shiny apple to a kid. It's gonna attract that type of activity --
CAPLIS: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa --
CALLER: -- whether they're legal or not.
CAPLIS: Wait a second, brother! You know, I know that area.
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SILVERMAN: I agree it's serious. A guy fires a gun in somebody's direction, and I'm glad they're taking it seriously. But [caller], you called to say that Dan is -- you said, Dan, Boulder is clearly a sanctuary city. And I'm not disagreeing with you. I don't think they have a policy of turning people over to ICE. But as I've asked since the outbreak of this whole illegal immigration story, when I hear Boulder or Denver named a sanctuary city, I'm gonna ask you, "What city in Colorado is not? Where do they have a different policy?" I'm not aware of it. And when I asked Tom Tancredo that he said, New Ipswich, New Hampshire, and OK -- New Ipswich, which had a trespassing law which was since tossed out of court. So we've got a federal problem with illegal immigration. I don't think it's fair to put it on Boulder.
CAPLIS: I think the question is, if a community is having problems that relate to people are here illegally, is the community doing everything within its power to protect its citizens?