MICHAEL KNOWLES (HOST): So you — you've studied the woman. If she does become the nominee and if, you know, we hope we hope against it, of course, but if she became the president, what would that look like? Who is Kamala Harris? What does she believe? What are her priorities? What do we have to fight against and potentially dread?
CHARLIE SPIERING (GUEST): Well, she's a 100% — her number one goal is the issue of abortion. Since Roe v Wade was overturned, she's made that her sole political focus that she's been campaigning across the country on the issue of abortion. It's — it'll be the number one issue. If elected president, it'll be the number one issue that she starts her presidency on. She wants revenge for that decision. She wants it — she wants Roe v Wade completely codified back into law, and she wants to punish Republicans for doing it in the first place. So I do see it as a very hostile, very aggressive push towards that on that issue and certainly to continue on with and defend the entire Biden agenda that passed so far.
KNOWLES: That is very unfortunate because one, it's an evil, evil, position to to make your raison d'etre in politics. But also, you know, I'm as pro-life as they get — when abortion has come up on the ballot since the overruling of Roe v Wade, the pro-lifers have not fared very well. So I'm sure Kamala Harris is gonna wanna make this election in some ways a referendum on abortion.
You can see Trump trying to choose his words carefully on abortion. You know, he is the most pro-life president we've ever had, first sitting president to show up to the March for Life, appointed the judges who overruled Roe v Wade. So he's got very good pro-life bona fides, but he's trying to minimize how he speaks about it because as he said, you gotta get elected. So you could see her even leaning into that.