O'DONNELL: But what about what we just heard Barack Obama say about a new era of responsibility and fiscal restraint? Let's bring in Republican strategist John Feehery. John, you were just here squirming in your chair as the president was speaking. What's the big deal?
FEEHERY: Well, you passed the biggest, pork-filled stimulus -- whatever you want to call it -- bill in history, and now you're talking about fiscal responsibility. They should have talked about it before they did this bill; it would have been a better bill. If they would have cut this bill in half, geared it right to stimulus, I think a lot of economists including Alice Rivlin would have said that was the right approach. But they go first with this huge pork bill --
O'DONNELL: Name one piece of pork.
FEEHERY: Uh, well -- you can't do that to me right now. I can't think of it right now. But it's a huge bunch of stuff that we don't even know what's in there.
O'DONNELL: Well, the reason I ask you that -- I don't mean to put you on the spot and everything -- but it's not pork. A lot of people say what it is is infrastructure spending. It is spending that is stimulative. That's what the White House says.