NEIL CAVUTO (HOST): Let's say she got these weapons legally. Then, it's going to raise the question -- or should we have made them so easy to get? I don't know -- we don't -- none of us really know about her past that much. Would there be anything in there that would have prevented her from getting these weapons? But the fact that they were the kind that could do this significant amount of damage, you know a lot of small facilities -- I've been raising this with a number of guests, Commissioner. They don't think they're going to be targets. You know, especially a small private religious school connected to a church. Most churches are almost always open. In this case, connected to a school. They might want to rethink that policy. But there are hundreds -- I dare say thousands -- of such institutions across the country. So, what do you do?
HOWARD SAFIR (GUEST): Well, you know, we have to understand the times we live in. And we have to look at potential soft targets and harden them because we know we're going to see this over and over again. And we can't disregard the defund police issue and the demonization of law enforcement, which changes how police police. We have to go back to assertive policing.
You remember, Neil, we had the safest large city in America because we took all the guns off the street. We used stop, question and frisk and we made sure that criminals knew that if they carry a weapon, they were going to be found and they were going to go to jail. And we could do the same thing again, but it's not going to happen in this permissive attitude that we have right now in this country.