Gretchen Carlson: Project 2025 “is effectively what Donald Trump would do”
Carlson: “Getting rid of Paul Dans does nothing”
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From the July 30, 2024, edition of CNN's The Source with Kaitlan Collins
KAITLAN COLLINS (HOST): Should we still expect to see her using that talking point, you think even despite Paul Dans' departure?
BILL DE BLASIO (GUEST): Yeah, one hundred percent. Look, when over 100 former Trump administration officials helped to write it and it mirrors so much of what Trump has said over the years.
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COLLINS: Well, and there's no real transition happening right now for the Trump campaign planning, if he does win. So, this actually probably would have been something they used a lot of at least in certain bones and structure of it. But when you look at the part of this, the reason we wanted to talk to Paul Dans about this tonight is he helmed all of this obviously with a lot of help.
But, there are plans to ban pornography, reversing federal appeal of mifepristone, undo the FDA's approval of that, essentially. Also eliminate the federal agency that oversees the National Weather Service. I mean, there are these proposals that a lot of these conservatives wanted to actually see enacted and certainly could still happen if Trump wins.
GRETCHEN CARLSON (GUEST): I mean, I think it was a total shock to many conservatives that Donald Trump suddenly disavowed himself from this.
By the way, I think getting rid of Paul Dans does nothing. The Democrats will continue to talk about this because this is effectively what Donald Trump will do potentially if he wins reelection.
But what I really want to get the point across is that this is all about independents and quite possibly the Trump campaign finally realized that they had to reach out to independents. And this is not a way to do it. Nine hundred pages of ultra-conservatism.
So, independents decide every presidential election. He may have figured out that he has to try and get them in some shape or form. And that's a pretty terse statement coming from the Trump campaign tonight that they want nothing to do with this.