TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): In some cases, taking their own lives, I would say. I mean the suicide rate for American men is higher than it's been in a long time. I would just note that the problems that William Julius Wilson chronicled, I thought, so well 30 or 40 years ago are now the problems of rural America, which obviously has a completely different racial demographic and political beliefs than inner city America. And it seems to me that when it happens to two different groups, the very same thing, that would be the wakeup call for our policymakers to say wait a second, maybe we should get involved in thinking about how to fix this considering in our neighborhoods where rich people live in my neighborhood for example, there are no single mothers. Everybody is married, because it works. Why aren't they doing their best to pass on the thing that is working for them? It just seems grotesque to me. 

HEATHER MACDONALD (GUEST): No I think we do have to look at industrial policy and make sure that there are good, well-paying jobs there. I just wouldn't assume that that is going to be enough at this point to turn around the culture. Again we need to valorize males. And the culture needs to say males are not toxic, masculinity is not toxic. There are male virtues of valor, courage, chivalry, heroism in war that are really uniquely male. They should not be disparaged. Females have complementary virtues and values that are also essential to children. 

Previously:

Tucker Carlson says criticism of his misogyny is why we’re currently in a “dark age” and what led to the end of science, art, comedy and creativity​

Tucker Carlson says women making more money than men leads to “more drug and alcohol abuse, higher incarceration rates”​

Tucker Carlson spent Women's History Month parroting YouTube's most extreme misogynists​