GREG GUTFELD (CO-HOST): You have to talk about how many people are shot versus the greater number of people shot. How many blacks are involved in crime versus that. The question that this brings a left winger to was the one they can't handle. If they enforce gun laws, that means there will be more blacks in jail, and they don't want to put more blacks in jail, so the solution is you gotta let --
JUAN WILLIAMS (CO-HOST): Wait, there are more whites who own guns. And let me just say --
GUTFELD: No, wait, wait, let me finish. The overwhelming majority of gun violence is turf warfare over gangs. If you want to solve that you're gonna have to legalize drugs, and no one will do that.
WILLIAMS: Well that's a different issue, but let me --
GUTFELD: But that's the issue. The same issue, Juan.
WILLIAMS: What the issue is, if are you black in America and you feel like the suspect when the cops show up as opposed to a citizen, that's a problem.