RAYMOND ARROYO: Laura, what I don't like about both of these stories is we're judging the past in light of shifting moral, ethic, and cultural codes of today. We can't do that. You just can't.

LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): They're either defacing statues or pulling them down.

ARROYO: Yeah.

INGRAHAM: And I've said this before, I'm going to keep saying this: This is what the Taliban does. The Taliban used to rip down historical markers, destroy churches. ISIS did the same thing, does the same thing. They don’t want any vestige of what was. Even if it’s bad, they don’t want any vestige; even if it’s good, they don’t want it.

ARROYO: But these are two iconic images of America. John Wayne and the sailor, the release, freedom. They’re impugning America.

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