LAURA INGRAHAM (HOST): Gov. [Gavin] Newsom's comments were revealed just a day after an ABC-affiliate in Houston created a stir with a story about a 9-year-old boy who is a drag queen spreading a quote, “message of love.” So is this diverse expression or using a child for political end? Joining me now to analyze all this, doctor and psychiatrist Carole Lieberman. Dr. Lieberman, I want to begin with Gov. Newsom of your state saying, well this is a dark, dark situation with masculinity in America. Your view.
CAROLE LIEBERMAN (PSYCHIATRIST): Well, yes, obviously he was traumatized as a young boy by people telling him to “man up,” and that, you know, not to be a sissy and so on. And he's still traumatized by it, and he’s projecting onto Trump about this hyper-masculinity because really he has done more to go against Trump and in fact, making decisions that really are more about making Trump angry than what's best for California. And so, you know, he's trying to, you know, hyper-masculinity, all about physical strength, aggression, and sexuality. And who's the biggest man? And he's putting himself opposite Trump and trying to show that he's the bigger man.
INGRAHAM: That's actually -- OK, now I see why you are a psychiatrist. That's a really great analysis.
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LIEBERMAN: I think that [the 9-year-old drag queen's] mother and father should be arrested for child abuse is what I really think. They are turning this child into a puppet for their -- to get attention for them, to get money, you know, through social media and through these appearances and so on. It's not about what he wants to do. He's only nine years old.
