LAUREN SAMBATARA (GUEST): I think what's happening right now is we're avoiding the conversation because we're avoiding the fat shaming, which is not okay. Fat-shaming, bullying is not okay. But normalizing obesity is also not the solution.
JESSE WATTERS (HOST): Alright, so where is the line --
SAMBATARA: So we have to have the conversation around --
WATTERS: Where is the line between fat-shaming and normalizing obesity? Can you fat-shame a little?
SAMBATARA: I'm not sure that I can answer that.
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WATTERS: So you're saying we shouldn't fat-shame, we should skinny-encourage. Got it.